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Ted Todd
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posted 08-03-2004 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ted Todd     Edit/Delete Message
The California Supreme Court issued a ruling on People V. Wilkinson on July 29th. It is kind of a split decision that does not help on criminal cases but may offer hope on civil cases. I am not computer savy enough to post a link here but the decision in its entirety is posted on George's site.

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J L Ogilvie
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posted 08-03-2004 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for J L Ogilvie   Click Here to Email J L Ogilvie     Edit/Delete Message
Pretty much the same old stuff but george makes it sound like doomsday for Polygraph. What a surprise.

Jack

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Barry C
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posted 08-04-2004 07:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barry C   Click Here to Email Barry C     Edit/Delete Message
What's the name of the case, and I'll see if I can post a link to it at Findlaw.com or soem other site.

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Ted Todd
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posted 08-04-2004 09:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ted Todd     Edit/Delete Message
Barry,

It is People V. Wilkinson - Supreme Court decision number S111028.

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Barry C
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posted 08-04-2004 09:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barry C   Click Here to Email Barry C     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks. Here's the site (it's an Adobe document):
http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/opinions/documents/S111028.PDF

It really doesn't say much new. The Court said the statute saying polygraph evidence is not admissible, is constitutional. It cited Sheffer saying because there is disagreement in the scientific community as to the reliability of polygraph (from flipping coins to about 87%), it (the statute) is not unconstitutional to bar the evidence from getting in.

I think that shows we need to know what these studies are all about. Why does one study show polygraph to be a 50/50 toss up? Because of flawed methodology. (Not to mention the inclusion of INCs as wrong decisions.) We need to be able to point those things out for those outside the polygraph community so they can make informed decisions.

Perhaps we could pick a few of those studies for discussion here so when cited, we would be able to comment on whether they were good or bad and be able to articulate why they are what they are?

[This message has been edited by Barry C (edited 08-04-2004).]

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Barry C
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posted 08-04-2004 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barry C   Click Here to Email Barry C     Edit/Delete Message
Here's a Word doc site (and I see I spelled Scheffer wrong above):
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data2/californiastatecases/s111028.doc

Happy reading

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